mattynatureboy44 Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) All the following plants have been regularly foliar and soil fertilised over the last 6 months. As you can see they lack any red or purple colouration and are very green! probably due to the regular fertilisation. Dudley Watts last year leaf cutting WP_20130813_003 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Big Boy late last years leaf cutting WP_20130813_002 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr WP_20130813_001 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Another Big Boy last years leaf cutting re potted this year WP_20130813_049 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr WP_20130813_047 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Hummers Giant Autumn last year leaf cutting WP_20130813_048 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr A. Slack last years leaf cutting re potted in spring WP_20130813_045 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Giant - This Springs root cutting it has grown remarkably fast the clone seems to be very hardy and vigorous anyway. WP_20130813_025 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Another Giant root cutting from this year WP_20130813_020 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Another Giant root cutting from this year WP_20130813_013 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Giant - another root cutting from this year WP_20130813_006 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr A slack mature division heavily fertilised WP_20130813_008 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Another plant heavily fertilised WP_20130813_007 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Hummers Giant last years leaf cutting WP_20130813_004 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr All flowering plants in this picture have been regularly fertilised WP_20130813_022 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Edited August 13, 2013 by mattynatureboy44 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petesredtraps Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 What fertilizer did you choose and how often did you use it? Did you feed directly into the pitchers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 What fertilizer did you choose and how often did you use it? Did you feed directly into the pitchers? I use Orchid Focus I had the Orchid Bloom and Orchid Growth one and mixed them together I made it fairly strong too. I fertilised approximately 2-4 times a month, I fertilised the soil and filled the pitchers and also poured some on the plant and leaves. I also used Orchid mist on the plants about once a week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephalotus Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Now the last question remains, what concentration? "Fairly strong" does not really tell everything, sorry. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Now the last question remains, what concentration? "Fairly strong" does not really tell everything, sorry. :) I suppose I mean pretty much full strength as you would if you followed the instructions to fertilise an orchid. I used the same technique and fertiliser with some of my Nep's and Heli's with good results. Edited August 14, 2013 by mattynatureboy44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klugi Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Do you find your plants prefer full sun or partial shade, I have heard that partial shade seems to encourage better growth, what do you find, thanks Edited August 13, 2013 by Klugi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I have cephs in 3 different locations and they seem to grow best an be happiest in the location that gets morning and evening sun only, so I would say half a days full sun or similar but they do seem to like and need good light and I find they suffer and can become more prone to rot and sudden death syndrome with lack of good light. I have a few in with my Flytraps that are in full sun most of the day and they seem to suffer in the heat of summer and almost stop growing at times but they do survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I've started fertilising mine with Miracle Gro Rhododendron and Azalea fertiliser. I use a quarter of the dose that's recommended for houseplants twice a month as a foliar feed. Matty's experiments are interesting in that they show that you can get away with higher doses of the fertiliser he's using. One would wonder though what the optimal level (dosage or frequency) would be though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmatil Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Orchid Focus. That's great as it's available on ebay. May as well give it a try if I dare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) Don't forget I used this weekly too as a foliar spray and often topped up the pitchers with it too. http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/281021725705?var=gv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y&lpid=65&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=65&ff19=0 Also I water the plants from above at least once or twice a month whilst fertilising to give the soil a flush, I have never had any problems watering cephs from above during spring and summer time. I have stopped fertilising now as the weather has got cooler and I don't want too much fertiliser to still be hanging around in the soil during winter. I am hoping that maybe now I have stopped they will start to get some colour soon too. I also used this fertilisation technique on some heliamphora and Nepenthes with good results. Edited August 14, 2013 by mattynatureboy44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) I watered from above at least once a week whilst fertilising to give the soil a flush, I have never had any problems watering cephs from above during Spring Summer or Autumn. I have stopped fertilising now as summer is ending and I don't want too much fertiliser hanging around in the soil during winter. Also I am hoping now I have stopped with the feed they will start to get some colour back soon. Edited August 14, 2013 by mattynatureboy44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I have used Orchid Focus, at the suggested dilution strength printed on the label, for a number of years on Cephalotus. I also use IONIC hydroponic nutrient solution for root and foliage feed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I have used Orchid Focus, at the suggested dilution strength printed on the label, for a number of years on Cephalotus. I also use IONIC hydroponic nutrient solution for root and foliage feed. I think I may have got the idea to use Orchid Focus from a previous thread where you had mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmatil Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Just a quick question about the Orchid Focus. It seems there are 2 versions of it: Grow and Bloom. Which one do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Just a quick question about the Orchid Focus. It seems there are 2 versions of it: Grow and Bloom. Which one do you use? Both but mainly Growth I actually mixed them both together and then added water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Both but mainly Growth I actually mixed them both together and then added water. Like half a measure of each? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Like half a measure of each? Yeah something like that then when the bottles were half empty, I poured them into one and just used that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 You can get the 'Bloom' one easily in garden centres here in Ireland but it appears that you can't get the 'Grow' one anywhere in the country. God forbid a person would want to actually grow their plant on and get it to flower later on. I left the bottle I bought in the UK at my Mum's by accident. I shall be going there this/next week for a funeral so will pick it up then. I could do with giving my Ceph a real boost. Do you know there is a thirds formula by the same manufacturer? It's called 'Orchid Ultra', I have no idea what it claims to do and why one should use it as well as of the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Orchids Ultra is not a fertilizer, it is humic and fulvic acids. I use it too, but as a companion to fertilizer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredG Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Do you find your plants prefer full sun or partial shade, I have heard that partial shade seems to encourage better growth, what do you find, thanks I questioned Barry Rice and Phill Mann some time ago about the Coal Mine Beach aspect. I was told that it was south facing, so if you want to attempt to replicate the conditions in the Northern hemisphere we should be growing facing North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 some great looking results Matty,i have been using a babybio orchid feed but not full strength and not as often as you,time to up the dosage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I wonder at what concentration does the dosage cease to be MORE beneficial than a lower dose and instead becomes a waste of extra solution. Has to happen at some point. I'm not putting anyone down here by saying that though. It was just something that sprang to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmatil Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I just bought a pair of Orchid Focus, 2 bottles grow and bloom. I hope 100 ml will be enough for now. Sadly the Orhicd Mist isn't available for overseas shipping by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I make up a mist spray solution using a weak solution of Orchid Focus Grow and Ultra, with a drop of wetting agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I just bought a pair of Orchid Focus, 2 bottles grow and bloom. I hope 100 ml will be enough for now. Sadly the Orhicd Mist isn't available for overseas shipping by default. I personally wouldn't fertilise too much to start with, start off with a smaller amount and gradually build it up if the plants seem OK with it. Best time to fertilise if you are going to do it is when the plant is actively growing so you might not have long left now this year, it probably wouldn't do the plants any good if it was outside the growing season and could possibly have adverse effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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