Jump to content

Change

Pinguicula weser (maybe)

- - - - -

  • Please log in to reply
7 replies to this topic

#1
MalcolmP

MalcolmP
  • Full Members
  • 76 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SW England
An impulse buy at a local GardenC of a charming little ping advertised as 'weser'
So, a bit of googling shows a big debate a few years ago about what is, or not , a 'weser'
lots of web refs. are nolonger extant
so, no big deal but, I wonder what current pages/images/thoughts are on this ?

it had a small bud on a flower stalk and yo, a few days later :
Posted Image
Posted Image

and a bit of fiddling with my macro and built in flash :

Posted Image

#2
kisscool_38

kisscool_38
  • Full Members
  • 706 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Grenoble (France)
That's the garden center's "Fake Weser", not the real 'Weser' at all.

#3
jimfoxy

jimfoxy
  • Full Members
  • 1,377 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cambridge, UK
  • Interests:population issues, sustainability (sustainable growth = oxymoron, moron)
See http://www.cpphotofi...weser-3877.html
and http://jimfoxy.co.uk/sethos_weser.html

To date, I have never heard of the real P. x 'Weser' being sold at a garden centre.

Edited by jimfoxy, 05 July 2012 - 17:44 PM.


#4
MalcolmP

MalcolmP
  • Full Members
  • 76 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SW England

View Postjimfoxy, on 05 July 2012 - 17:40 PM, said:

See http://www.cpphotofi...weser-3877.html
and http://jimfoxy.co.uk/sethos_weser.html
To date, I have never heard of the real P. x 'Weser' being sold at a garden centre.
Thanks for the refs. Jim, I am slowly working my way through the photofinder links.

Yes, I had previously seen your page on Sethos-Weser, that is kindof why I started this thread. I had been googling and came upon your discussions long time ago where you had acquired, from a contact, a scan of the Slack pictures.
Sadly they are rather small and of poor resolution with uneven lighting and no standard colour chart ! However I thought the colour and white stripes in mine were closer to the Slack Weser than to his pic of Sethos.
So I thought that it was worth raising the question again to see if any further studies had come to light in the intervening years :) You never know, perhaps someone had managed to infiltrate a better example into the Dutch growers greenhouses, lol!

But looks increasingly likely that the real Weser is lost.

Thanks for your efforts.

#5
jimfoxy

jimfoxy
  • Full Members
  • 1,377 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cambridge, UK
  • Interests:population issues, sustainability (sustainable growth = oxymoron, moron)
No, the real Weser is around (or something that looks as close to identical as you can get). You will find it on Bob's photo page.

The scanned slides I managed to accomplish last year from Slack's actual slide collection show clear differences in the flowers and they very well match his descriptions. If you have not looked at my web page for a year or so then have another look. Colour is pretty irrelevant; there are huge differences in the shapes of the white patches on the flowers. Some fake clones around can have flowers that look a bit like Sethos but I have not seen any that look particularly like Weser except for those which you could conclude probably were Weser.

Your flower:
Posted Image

Weser scanned from Slack's slide:
Posted Image

A world of difference! Look at the narrow clean white stripes. Petal shape is also different.

#6
MalcolmP

MalcolmP
  • Full Members
  • 76 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SW England

View Postjimfoxy, on 05 July 2012 - 22:38 PM, said:

No, the real Weser is around (or something that looks as close to identical as you can get). You will find it on Bob's photo page.
It's huge !
Which ?

PS
read google stuff on scan of page from Slack,
missed scanned slides story !
sorry, so those pics on your site are from orig slides then ?
sorry my bad, thort they were from the page.

Not to worry, not life and death,
not like the Higgs boson story ;)

Edited by MalcolmP, 05 July 2012 - 23:10 PM.


#7
jimfoxy

jimfoxy
  • Full Members
  • 1,377 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cambridge, UK
  • Interests:population issues, sustainability (sustainable growth = oxymoron, moron)

View PostMalcolmP, on 05 July 2012 - 22:51 PM, said:

It's huge !
Which ?

Bob indicates in red text the ones that look like the true cultivar. Yes, the two scans on my website are from the original set of Slack's slides, not the book. I remember there was more than one slide of each plant in the slide collection so the scan you see may not exactly match the photo in the book.

#8
MalcolmP

MalcolmP
  • Full Members
  • 76 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SW England

View Postjimfoxy, on 06 July 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

Bob indicates in red text the ones that look like the true cultivar.
Ah ! Thanks, I missed that. I had only got down the list to the two ?marks so I thought the reds were just a few random comments sort of. But now you prompt me I can see further down more positive reds.
So far I especially like the Insectenfang pics, nicely done.

right then, back to delving >>>