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hi guys which cps are hardy outdoors in the uk, i will be keeping them in pots so can bring them into my potting shed for the worst of the weather but cant provide any heat during the winter, the other half might let me bring a couple into the house if i behave myself

thanks

dave

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Pretty much all saracenia. But be careful with leucophyla and minor. They can't stand too much cold.

Dionea can stand temperatures reaching minus 10 degrees.

A lot of temperate drosera like D. rotundifolia and D. filiformis shouldn't have problems with the weather either.

Greetings,

Chrass

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thats great thanks , now i need to try get some plants from somewhere, anyone know any good garden centres in east yorks? or even somewhere i can get some mail order?

In my experience it is better to order them or go to one of the many open days the member on this forum do. The reason for this is that the condition of the plants is generally guaranteed to be good.

Most plants I have bought from garden centres don't last long because they have been watered incorrectly. That said if you get them when the order has just come in, before the staff have killed them with tap water, you should be fine.

There are so many people on here that will sell you great plants at good prices you might as well use them :)

Hope this helps

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Hi Dave,

welcome aboard.

You need to be 30days old before you can see the ForSale !

There are a few of us champing at the bit,

see this thread Here

Malcolm.

PS. Thanks for asking the "hardy" question - I was getting round to asking the same sometime soon :)

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ah i see that makes sense, i am a moderator on a tropical fish forum and we have trouble with scammers and people only joining to sell something without contributing to the forum so i totally agree with what has been done here, having to wait 30 days will only make me more hungry for some quality plants

thanks for the replies everyone

regards

dave

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Hi Dave,

this isn't the best time of year to mail order Sarracenia. Winter is generally the best time as they are dormant and will not be disturbed too badly.

But if there are growers near you, you can arrange to pick them up which is much better for the plants than postage. Plus they are already potted and ready to go.

For outdoors plants, I'll add that S. purpurea purpurea, S. flava and oreophila are probably the hardiest; but you can of course try any as long as they are protected from bad freezing in the winter. VFTs and temperate sundews are also good choices.

Just keep them in a sunny sheltered spot, minimize wind, and remember that hailstones and heavy rain can badly damage developing pitchers.

Good luck!

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thats great thanks , now i need to try get some plants from somewhere, anyone know any good garden centres in east yorks? or even somewhere i can get some mail order?

For mail/online ordering go for Hampshire Carnivores, Southwest Carnivores (littleshopofhorrors), PJ Plants also have great Sarracenia. Not sure of the others as I haven't tried them yet. I can only recommend based upon my own buying experience.

This forum does provide excellent variety though, especially if you're looking for something special.

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30 days? Now I'm confused. I forgot to mention, if you can bring plants into the shed during cold spells then you can really grow all Sarracenia, Dionaea, Darlingtonia (does fine out anyway), Drosera binata is good too. Even south African Sundews like capensis or aliceae if you put them out in the spring and bring them in for the winter (house windowsill).

One thing though about the Sarracenias is how sheltered you are from wind during the growing season. Mine get trashed every year (greenhouse going up over the next 2 days :biggrin: ). Perhaps you want to pick shorter varieties like purpurea, psittacina, x Catesbae (and similar shaped hybrids). I haven't had my plant long yet so not sure how tall they grow but I think rubra is a rubra low growing one. Droseras that can stay outdoors all the time are rotundifolia, intermedia (make sure it's British!) filliformis sp fillformis, anglica, hybrida. Pinguicula grandiflora, vulgaris (among others).

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Oh I suddenly recall the new 30 day rule, yeah I'm not a fan of that rule for buying. Totally understand it for selling. I have been assured though that 'splitting' the two is too hard to manage. I appreciate where the moderators and admins are coming from.

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thanks for the info Richard , im quite lucky where i am , i live on a farm and i have a lot of shelter around me , large trees and barns so i dont get a lot of wind in the garden , i have 3 gardens and one of them is surrounded by a beech hedge so very sheltered , i really like the big sarras i have seen in pictures on the forum so would like to have a go with a few of them

cheers

dave

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I really like the big sarras i have seen in pictures on the forum so would like to have a go with a few of them

cheers

dave

This makes me recall myself a little more than 2 years ago; looking at the pictures on here in awe and wanting to try to grow them, just like yourself. You'll have fun starting off your carnivorous collection, good luck!

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Yes it's the big pitchers that attract so many of us to the genus. I adore Brooke's Hybrid, flava maxima, and minor 'okee'. There are quite a few large pitchered plants out there though, including some leucophylla varieties. A nice giant clone of flava rugelii is stunning.

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