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D. camporupestris x spiralis

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#1 Daniel O.

 
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 05:02 AM

Hi all,

and here is my next one. :devious:

About two years ago i crossed D. camporupestris ´Serra do Cipó, Minas Gerais´ with D. spiralis ´Itacambira, Minas Gerais´ and it worked.
Two of the plants seem to be adult now and they are going to flower, the leafes are about 12cm long. The flower stalks are really very wooly.
On the first sight they look very similar to D. spiralis but the leafes are much more flat in comparison to D. spiralis, additionally the colouration is not the same and in the middle of the leafes they are wider. And another big difference are the long petioles, they are about 4cm long and they are very hairy.
The biggest plants already formed a short stem of about 1-2cm.
To me these plants look totally intermediate between these two species, what do you think?

Here are some pictures of the "father":
D. spiralis

And now D. camporupestris x spiralis
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the next plant is going to flower
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I hope you like it.

Best regards,

Dani

Edited by Daniel O., 22 August 2012 - 02:01 AM.


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Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:15 AM

I do like it! :D

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:13 AM

An insane plant! :shock: For me it is even better than your previous hybrid with tomentosa...

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:38 AM

Woah... Fantastic new hybrid, Daniel. Great results.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 12:20 PM

Very nice!! I love it! :clapping:

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 17:02 PM

Really nice, well done once again!
As you said, it is really close to Drosera graminifolia. It remains me the case of Drosera x hybrida, really close to the filiform-leaved sundew but leaves rather broader and shorter.
How many new more hybrids do you have hidden in your greenhouse?

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 20:52 PM

Great work Daniel! That plant looks so unbelievably split in her appearance. From the picture it literally looks like the leaf of camporupestris has been grafted right onto the one of d. spiralis!:-D The hybrids you have produced recently are very attractive. I'd like to get some in my collection. Any chance of availability anytime soon? :)

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 21:11 PM

Many thanks to all of you. :smile:

Aymeric, i do not have a greenhouse, they grow inside in the house.
In the moment i have 2 nearly adult hybrids i have not shown till now, but they are not that spectacular.
But two months ago i tried several new crossings and a few of them already germinated. :thumbsup:

Dusan, perhaps there is a chance. :wink:
In the moment i have a second pot with seedlings and these days i tried leaf cuttings.

Best regards,
Dani

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:32 AM

Hi Daniel.

You are amazing grower, congratulations again! :sorcerer:

Regards.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 14:52 PM

Very nice looking plants!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 00:03 AM

Many thanks Carlos and Jim. :smile:

I tried to take a picture of the parents and the hybrid with D. camporupestris at the left and D. spiralis (young plants) at the right.
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A picture of young D. spiralis, here you can see that the leafes almost do not have any petioles.
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And some pictures of the emerging flower scape.
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Best regards,
Dani

Edited by Daniel O., 10 May 2012 - 00:06 AM.


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 05:56 AM

Once again a very nice hybrid Dani!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:03 AM

Great photos.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 20:57 PM

Flowers pictures, please. :sorcerer:

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:46 AM

OMG, OMG, OMG! This is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daniel, you are incredible! Now I know what to look for in the field whenever I find these two species growing near each other again! :)

More pictures when they flower please.


Thanks!
Fernando


P.S. Amazing that the mother plant is camporupestris and yet it looks so much more like spiralis!

Edited by Fernando Rivadavia, 11 May 2012 - 03:38 AM.


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Posted 11 May 2012 - 19:23 PM

These hybrids made by you are only getting more and more spectacular. :clapping: Do you already have another hybrid waiting to be shown to the world?

#17 Daniel O.

 
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 00:08 AM

Many thanks again. :thumbsup:

@Fernando and Carlos, till now no open flowers, the flower stalk is really long, more like for D. spiralis.
Hopefully they will open these days because i will be away for about two weeks, it would be really hard to miss the flowers.
Yes indeed, nethertheless the mother plants is D. camporupestris, from far away it really looks nearly like a D. spiralis.

Do these two species grow sympatrically?

@Deadly Weapon, the next one will be D. graomogolensis x tomentosa var. tomentosa or D. ascendens x tomentosa var. glabrata.

Best regards,
Dani

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 08:23 AM

Hello Daniel,

It is not common to find D.spiralis and D.camporupestris growing together or close to each other. I can only remember 5 spots right now, two in the Diamantina area and 3 in the Parque Nacional Sempre Vivas and surroundings (northern end of the Diamantina plateau).

No such hybrids were seen anywhere.

Please try to make a chrysolepis X camporupestirs cross, as I now suspect some of the variation of "chrysolepis" we've seen at the Serra do Cipó may have been hybrids....

I just hope none of this stuff is fertile, I already have enough taxonomic nightmares as it is! :)


Thanks again,
Fernando

Edited by Fernando Rivadavia, 13 May 2012 - 08:30 AM.


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 01:06 AM

HI Fernando,

thanks for the information.
Perhaps you would not recognise such a crossing in nature because it´s very similar to D. spiralis on the first sight.

About your suggetion concerning crossings, my D. chrysolepis will flower soon, hopefully i will be back in time to pollinate the flowers, but i´m afraid that i will miss the flowers.

I hope it will be fertile. :devious:

Best regards,
Dani

Edited by Daniel O., 15 May 2012 - 01:08 AM.


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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:31 AM

Do these two species grow sympatrically?


Fernando already answered :sarcastic_blum:

Ah, you will get some seeds of verybig specimens of D. camporupestris, I wonder how would the hybrids with D. chrysolepis. :sorcerer:

Regards.





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