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is Drosera x obovata 'Ivan's Paddle' in cultivation in Europe?
(If so, can I have some please...:biggrin: )

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What makes this different from the normal x obovata?

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what do you mean by the normal x obovata? Being a hybrid, all crosses will be different and this seems to have good size, shape and vigour...
would be interested in any vigorous clones...

the answer is yes, it does appear to be in the UK at least

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Here is a video on youtube, but it seems that this guy sold some along the year.. Maybe you can try to contact him :)

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View PostJames O, on 01 December 2011 - 22:27 PM, said:

What makes this different from the normal x obovata?
The name D. x obovata refers to D. x anglica var. obovata.  However, I think these names should changed from variety status to that of subspecies...

'Ivan's Paddle' is a tetraploid version of the same hybrid, but made in cultivation using one of the Hawiian forms of D. x anglica var. anglica.

Ivan made a slight mistake about the name of his new plant in the article, linked below.  It isn't really var. obovata in the strictest sense, as D. x anglica var. obovata is naturally occuring and non-fertile(!) while this man-made 'Ivan's Paddle' was designed to be able to make seed.  So it is probably more accurate to say is most similar to the D. x anglica var. obovata hybrid, but is a different form/variety/what-have-you of D. x anglica.  I find it easiest to use " Drosera x 'Ivan's Paddle' ".

If plants like this are discovered which are naturally occurring (something which can be tested for against Ivan's plant--they'll have different DNA), they should receive a different Latin name and then we could refer to this cultivar as a selection under that Latin name.

http://www.carnivoro..._26.html#paddle

Enjoy the read.

Edited by Dave Evans, 09 December 2011 - 17:30 PM.