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[jimscott]

D. roseanna

D. callistos

D. paleacaea 'Cranbrook'

D. badgerupi

D. dichrosepala

[TheInactiveMoth]

Nice colouration!

[Miloslav Macháček]

Again some photos of your beautiful droseras with nice and deep colouration indeed!

What is the first mauve flower?

EDIT:

This one to be sure :

Edited by Miloslav Macháček, 12 June 2011 - 13:16 PM.

[Andreas Eils]

Ahoi Miloslav,

that must be Drosera pulchella x omissa (or vice versa).

Hello Jim,

I have to admit, too, your Droseras look magnificent! BTW: What Byblis is flowering on the image below D. pulchella x omissa?


Kind regards

Andreas

[Daniel G]

Wow!
Great colouration, and brilliant quality photos!

Thanks for sharing!

[-Xeno-]

Great looking plants, sunlight brings out the best in Drosera

[jimscott]

It's the Drosera pulchella x occidentalis.

[Andreas Eils]

jimscott, on 13 June 2011 - 13:06 PM, said:

It's the Drosera pulchella x occidentalis.

Huh?    I guess the size of the plants on the photo has just fooled me. Anyway it looks almost identical to my D. pulchella x omissa - particularly the flower!

[jimscott]

I tried taking pictures of the two in flower, yesterday, side-by-side, but the pictures were poor. Maybe in a few hours, today.

[VChr]

For comparison, here are three flowers.
First the

Drosera pulchella x occidentalis



second the
Drosera omissa x pulchella



and last one the
Drosera pulchella x omissa a cross made by Dieter



All of them are very similar, but are they identical? I don´t think so.
Christian

[jimscott]

I may have been given gemmae that were mislabeled. This is what came as pulchella x omissa:



These are supposed to be pulchella x occidentalis:



I'm guessing that I have all and only pulchella & omissa.

[Andreas Eils]

I guess unless the pots are correctly labelled it´s nearly impossible to judge by the flowers what is which cross. I´d expect the flower of D. pulchella x occidentalis is a little smaller than those of the others.

What really confuses me is: Both - D. occidentalis as well as D. pulchella - have almost absolute circular laminae. How can laminae of a cross made of D. occidentalis and D. pulchella be spoon shaped?

Regards

Andreas

[Andreas Eils]

jimscott, on 15 June 2011 - 16:28 PM, said:

I'm guessing that I have all and only pulchella & omissa.

Erm...from these pictures I am afraid you are right!

Sorry.

[jimscott]

I just took these pictures a few minutes ago. Compare and contrast. I just want correct ID's.

Pot #1:











From earlier in the week:





Pot #2:







From earlier in the week:

Edited by jimscott, 24 June 2011 - 14:06 PM.

[Andreas Eils]

Jim, I must admit I am at a loss! I have never seen the hybrid D. pulchella x occidentalis. The best would be Christian also posts close-ups of the leaves of this hybrid. The question from the point of view of the flowers is does D. omissa x pulchella always have only three stigmata on their flowers. Your flowers though a little unsharp look all like they´d have only three stigmata and I will prove today when some flowers of my D. omissa x pulchella are open how many stigmata each flower has. Maybe I should create the cross D. pulchella x occidentalis ssp. occidentalis myself and as well D. pulchella x occidentalis ssp. australis.

I have found the following statement on Marius´ website (www.droseragemmae.com) below the D. pulchella x occidentalis images:

Marius Vid said:

I could not see any difference between this plant traveling around under this name and the popular hybrid omissa x pulchella. Looks like it's one and the same.

Talk to you soon.

Andreas


Edited: The flower of the pic Miloslav picked out shows FOUR stigmata. Than it would be D. pulchella x omissa according to Christians photos....

Edited by Andreas Eils, 18 June 2011 - 00:31 AM.

[Andreas Eils]

Good afternoon,

all flowers of my hybrid D. omissa x pulchella have three stigmata. But I´m not certain if this is always the case. I´ll ask Christian V. to show a picture of his plants of D. pulchella x occidentalis.


Regards

Andreas

[jimscott]

LOL! I await the positive ID's!

[MICKEY]

good luck id ing them they all look so alike you wold have to do dna testing

[VChr]

Hi there,

here are the plants referring to the flowers above.
I have to say, that I can see no difference between them. I got the D. pulchella x occidentalis with the remark "I could not see any difference".
For me I could only notice the different number of stigmata and - checked it again - its allways five for the D. pulchella x occidentalis and three for the D. omissa x pulchella.
Like Andreas said, the spoon shape of the lamina makes no sense for a cross between D. pulchella and D. occidentalis.
Anyway, here they are:

D. pulchella x occidentalis



D. omissa x pulchella



and Dieters D. pulchella x omissa



Judge for yourself and good night!

Oh, and good morning Andreas!  

[Andreas Eils]

Good morning Christian,

isn´t that totally crazy they all look like the same cross? But I think I haven an explanation!

Drosera pulchella in fact is a bewitched D. omissa! ----------------->    And when you cross another pygmy species with D. pulchella the resulting hybrid shows the characteristics of what D. pulchella truely is: Drosera omissa!

I think I have to do the crossing myself: D. pulchella x occidentalis. My first problem is both species rarely flower at the same time. Another problem is I don´t grow a pink flowering D. pulchella anymore. I´d have to take the salmon flowering variety of D. pulchella. Anyway we just want to see how the leaves look like. Wish me luck I manage to cross both species with each other!   




Andreas