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Posted 12 May 2011 - 21:36 PM

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Here in the South East there has been little rain for close to two months and my supply is dwindling fast....down to around 10 days supply now......(unheard of in May - this usually only happens in August) and I am considering buying a Reverse osmosis unit. Does anyone use one and if so can they reccommend a brand? A google search turns up several but its hard to judge betweem them.
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 22:18 PM

Iv'e just bought myself an RO-MAN but I would reccomend you take a look at osmotics http://www.osmotics.co.uk/ or RO-MAN http://www.ro-man.com/


Osmotics are really helpfull and i wish id got mine from them, they are particually popular with the reef people and have their own forum section:

http://www.ultimater...splay.php?f=520

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 06:40 AM

Got mine off eBay, from seller aquasafe-de. They regularly have them on auctions, as well as buy now. So, I added a weeks worth of their auctions to my watch list and bid on a quiet day. I got a three stage RO unit for £22 that way and it works great. If you buy an RO unit which you don't intend having permanently plumbed in then consider buying push-fit taps for all three connections (inlet, outlet and drain - usually 1/4", but check) as the RO membrane should never be allowed to dry out.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 12:56 PM

Hi Mike

Similar to Mobile I bought a four stage RO unit from purityfilters on Ebay, it cost ninety odd quid but gives 125 US gall per day, which is a good quantity and spread over the life of the membrane and resin, probably works out at .004pence per gallon (excluding water cost if you are metered) so is a bargain in those terms.

In the recent hot weather it has proved invaluable providing water having a TDS of 1. I mounted it on a fence next to my water barrel to discharge the RO water into it, plumbed it in to a hose pipe from the garden tap, with the fittings provided and hey presto CP water. The waste water outlet I coupled to some more hose and use it to water the garden, it has a high mineral content but I don’t think the veg and flowers mind, it looks ugly but works.

I would recommend buying one if you can, just for the peace of mind.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 18:06 PM

Got mine off eBay, from seller aquasafe-de. They regularly have them on auctions, as well as buy now. So, I added a weeks worth of their auctions to my watch list and bid on a quiet day. I got a three stage RO unit for £22 that way and it works great. If you buy an RO unit which you don't intend having permanently plumbed in then consider buying push-fit taps for all three connections (inlet, outlet and drain - usually 1/4", but check) as the RO membrane should never be allowed to dry out.


I agree with all this and use the 3 tap method myself. Just remember to turn off the outlets before the water inlet to prevent the membrane drying out and keep the pressure up in the unit. If you plumb it in indoors you can fit a Y connector to the normal washing machine feed so it's not necessary to cut your cold water supply pipe. I know RO-man can provide all these bits.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 18:54 PM

Thanks everyone for the advice.
Unit and accessories ordered from RO-Man....that should guarantee a month of rain now for sure......

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 20:23 PM

Thanks everyone for the advice.
Unit and accessories ordered from RO-Man....that should guarantee a month of rain now for sure......


What unit did you go for?

Of course it will rain now, it hadn't rained for months then the night after i order mine it chucks it down and i now have months worth of rain water stored and a brand new RO unit with no use for it :clapping:.

At least i know how to break a drought now.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:55 PM

I went for the 50 gal per day unit with a DI filter.
Annoyingly it turned up without the 3/4" male adaptor needed to conenct it to the end of a hose so it took until yesterday lunchtime to get it up and running.....
Seems quite slow but 24 hours later I do now have around thirty gallons in the first waterbutt. Oh yes and it did rain at around 5:30 this morning.......only 3mm in the rain gauge so noting to get excited about.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:32 PM

The RO membrane permeate rate is temperature dependant and is quoted at water temperature of 25°C. The reason for this is because water gets thicker the colder it gets. The permeate rate can be calculated, for example, if the water temperature was 15°C then the permeate rate would be approximately 36 gal/day on a 50 gal/day unit.
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Posted 22 May 2011 - 17:57 PM

Thanks Mobile that makes perfect sense. I thought the rate would go up over night when the water pressure increased slightly but it didn't seem to make much difference. I wonder what the temperature of mains water is? Not twenty five degress ever I would have thought. Still 30 gallons a day will suit me fine.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 18:09 PM

The permeate will decrease/increase by approximately 3%/°F. Decreasing with temperature fall and increasing with rise. I was in charge of specifying and having installed a small scale industrial de-ionised water system in my last job, so picked up loads of useful/less information :biggrin:
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Posted 22 May 2011 - 20:00 PM

well after weeks and weeks of haveing no rain and my 5 butts so low that i,ve had to order one today from ro-man.
i want for the 75gallon 4 stage unit with di fillter.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 12:59 PM

At least if you have ordered or got one installed, you have peace of mind and water when you need it, I may have some sort of syndrome but if I see my barells below half full I satrt to get twitchy and start the RO system going.

I see the wether forecast for the SE of the UK still doesnt show much rain coming. The members down there must be pulling their hair out.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 13:25 PM

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I see the wether forecast for the SE of the UK still doesnt show much rain coming. The members down there must be pulling their hair out.


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We are Outdoor bogs are almost dry I just can't spare the water for them, and now I hear we are in for a long dry hot summer :ohmy: where I am in Braintree in Essex we honestly have had nothing but a few drizzles since february and when I say drizzles I mean it didn't even wet the whole floor and evaporated soon after and didn't notice a difference in the water butts.

Have to say it's a big worry now.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 21:47 PM

Could you put up any photos of the units you got from RO MAN if possible? Would jsut like to compare to mine.


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Posted 26 May 2011 - 12:29 PM

Hi Jim
I would attach an image if I understood the process......
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 12:42 PM

Hi Jim
I would attach an image if I understood the process......
Mike

You could upload it to a picture hosting site, such as http://tinypic.com/.

On TinyPic:

  • 'Browse...' for the 'File:'
  • 'Resize:' it, I recommend 640x480
  • 'Upload Now'
  • Enter the code
  • Copy the 'IMG Code for Forums & Message Boards' and paste it straight into your forum post.


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Posted 26 May 2011 - 16:31 PM

Like this?
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Yes that seems to work thanks.
I also bought a TDS mter to check its performance. Our tap water gave a reading of 245 and the water produced by the unit gave 4 for one water butt and 1 for the second so I guess its working.
Typically its now pissing down in South London.....

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 16:57 PM

Hi MikeP,

Yes, that's correct, except you missed off the [/IMG] on the end. You probably just missed that bit when you did a copy from TinyPic. I've correct it now, so you can see the picture in the post, without having to click on a link.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 20:05 PM

Thanks for putting pics up, looks just like mine although the pressure guage is connected differently, did you put it on with the T-joint yourself?