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Successful Cuneifolia X Ramentacea?


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#21 Christian

 
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 09:56 AM

Hi Stephen,

nice hybrid! I am still wondering why the plants are still relatively small for three years. I have already grown both parents from seed to flower size within two years. Anyway, if you ever have one spare, please put me on the list ;) ;)

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 11:57 AM

Christian, I treat them badly! Don't repot very often, low light levels and hardly any heat in winter! I'll take some leaf cuttings in spring....

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 19:56 PM

Hi Stephen,

i could imagine, that leaf cuttings won't work too well. I have never managed to get successfull leaf cuttings from D. ramentacea and only had success with the D. cuneifolia form from the Table Mountain. All attemps with the Silvermine Form so far failed. Will be interesting to hear if you have success with leaf cuttings.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 21:44 PM

oh dear! It will have to be roots then!

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:33 AM

well root cuttings seemed to have worked!
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Drosera cuneifolia x ramentacea root cutting by gardenofeden67, on Flickr
have not tried leaves yet, adult plants were not too happy about having roots removed.....

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 11:00 AM

Very interesting hybrid, they seem to have more ramentacea influence than cuneifolia.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 21:02 PM

I am very interested by this subject, i always wanted to make hybridization but with droseras it's very difficult, the flower is too small.
How did you do that?

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 20:15 PM

Remember these? Well I have selected out and propagated what I think are the 3 best clones:
Photos from last year of all the plants:
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cuneifolia x ramentacea2 by gardenofeden67, on Flickr
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New photos, including from today:
This is Clone #1, the first to be selected from the batch. It is the largest and most vigorous of all the progeny, and superficially resembles the D.ramentacea parent in morphology. It has very hairy petioles and laminas.
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cuneifolia x ramentacea #1 11 by gardenofeden67, on Flickr

Clone 1, potful of plantlets from root cuttings
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cuneifolia x ramentacea #1 14 by gardenofeden67, on Flickr

Clone 1, plantlet from root cuttings
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cuneifolia x ramentacea #1 15 by gardenofeden67, on Flickr

This is clone #2. A compact grower with good shape and spatulate leaves.
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cuneifolia x ramentacea #2 04 by gardenofeden67, on Flickr

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cuneifolia x ramentacea #2 09 by gardenofeden67, on Flickr

This is clone #3, somewhat inbetween clones 1 and 2 in characteristics.
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cuneifolia x ramentacea #3 03 by gardenofeden67, on Flickr





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Posted 04 December 2011 - 10:59 AM

I have to say that I don't know either of those species.... but I love your hybrid! :tu:

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 08:50 AM

have not tried leaves yet, adult plants were not too happy about having roots removed...

Dear Stephen,

Glad the cuttings are working. I wanted to mention, when you do take root cuttings, it actually isn't a bad idea to remove some foliage too. Reduces the load on the remaining roots and the stress on the plant.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 12:44 PM

Update
Clone #1 has been flowering for the last week, and I managed to capture it for the first time today.

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Drosera cuneifolia x ramentacea flower. by gardenofeden67, on Flickr

Edited by gardenofeden, 25 June 2013 - 12:45 PM.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:52 AM

Wow, what a great post showing the whole history of this hybrid, thanks Stephen!!

I made several S.African hybrids ~20 years ago and these were always amazingly uniform, even in F2, F3, etc. (yes, they were all fertile).

Thus, I am very surprised with the variability of the F1 progeny of your hybrid. This brings to mind some old speculations that D.ramentaceae itself is a hybrid between D.capensis and D.glabripes. Your variable hybrid progeny seems to support this, with some clones possibly receiving more of the D.capensis genes/chromosomes, whereas other others have more influence of D.glabripes.


Thanks,
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:52 AM

Wow, what a great post showing the whole history of this hybrid, thanks Stephen!!

I made several S.African hybrids ~20 years ago and these were always amazingly uniform, even in F2, F3, etc. (yes, they were all fertile).

Thus, I am very surprised with the variability of the F1 progeny of your hybrid. This brings to mind some old speculations that D.ramentaceae itself is a hybrid between D.capensis and D.glabripes. Your variable hybrid progeny seems to support this, with some clones possibly receiving more of the D.capensis genes/chromosomes, whereas other others have more influence of D.glabripes.


Thanks,
Fernando