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[Simon797]

So today ,as I was misting the plants, I noticed a flower on my biggest Heliamphora heterodoxa x nutans.
Is it a good time for flowers  to come from heliamphora ,or is it like my S.purpurea and do I need to cut it off?

Some pictures :


And here you can see the next growth inside the "flap"



Cheers Simon

Edited by Simon797, 18 August 2012 - 13:14 PM.

[linuxman]

As the plants are originally roughly equatorial I believe they flower the whole year round. So I would leave it if I were you. The flowers are quite attractive but the stems can get very long, which may be a problem if you keep it in a terrarium.

[Simon797]

linuxman, on 18 August 2012 - 13:44 PM, said:

As the plants are originally roughly equatorial I believe they flower the whole year round. So I would leave it if I were you. The flowers are quite attractive but the stems can get very long, which may be a problem if you keep it in a terrarium.

Thank you I already thought that and it is growing in an open aquarium within a  greenhouse but I might put a stake in the pot so it will be more stable when it becomes long.
I have another question : can the plant be self pollinated?Or do I need another,genetically different, plant?

Cheers Simon

[linuxman]

From what I remember (I don't have any helis now) the anthers and stigma ripen at different times. So you need to use pollen from the first flower on the stigma of the second flower, or vice versa.

[Simon797]

linuxman, on 18 August 2012 - 14:57 PM, said:

From what I remember (I don't have any helis now) the anthers and stigma ripen at different times. So you need to use pollen from the first flower on the stigma of the second flower, or vice versa.

Yea,I already knew that , if you have only one flowering plant you will need to sacrifice the first flower because first the stigma is receptive and after that the pollen ripen, but can the plant be selfpollinated?

Cheers Simon

[mobile]

My H. minor seems to have pollinated, with no intervention from me. It had two flower stalks and multiple flowers at the same time, so I guess it got insect pollinated.

[Simon797]

@ Mobile: That's easy , but I am going to do it with a tuning fork :)

[av8tor1]

(going by personal observations)

If  you cut it at this stage the plant will likely just send up a replacement. If you wait till the first flower opens to trim it, a replacment is much less likely.

The flowers are very elegant and I have never had issue with flowering killing the plant.... If this is your first, I'd say let it flower... Be prepared for a tall stalk with 3 to 5 flowers (varies) eventually.

My Heliampahora bloom twice a year and can be self pollinated easily enough....
There is some "art" to the process. But once you have that "ah-ha" moment, it becomes very easy.

It takes about three months for the fruit to ripen.

Congrats and good luck, tuning fork does make the process much easier IMHO.
Of course YMMV

Av

Edited by av8tor1, 19 August 2012 - 23:12 PM.

[Maiden]

Hey congrats !! Its always cool the first time :) your plant look happy :)
I got a lil flower hamp too!


Heliamphora minor flower hamp

:)

Maiden

[Simon797]

av8tor1, on 19 August 2012 - 22:51 PM, said:

(going by personal observations)

If  you cut it at this stage the plant will likely just send up a replacement. If you wait till the first flower opens to trim it, a replacment is much less likely.

The flowers are very elegant and I have never had issue with flowering killing the plant.... If this is your first, I'd say let it flower... Be prepared for a tall stalk with 3 to 5 flowers (varies) eventually.

My Heliampahora bloom twice a year and can be self pollinated easily enough....
There is some "art" to the process. But once you have that "ah-ha" moment, it becomes very easy.

It takes about three months for the fruit to ripen.

Congrats and good luck, tuning fork does make the process much easier IMHO.
Of course YMMV

Av

Thanks for the info

[Simon797]

Maiden, on 20 August 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

Hey congrats !! Its always cool the first time :) your plant look happy :)
I got a lil flower hamp too!


Heliamphora minor flower hamp

:)

Maiden

Oooh very nice little Heli you have there
and good luck with your flowers!

[Simon797]

@ MustangGT Thanks

Tomorrow i will probably make some new pictures

[Maiden]

My flower is open !! :)


Heliamphora minor flower


Heliamphora minor flower

what about yours ?

Maiden

[Simon797]

I think mine will open in about a week.
Are you going to get some seed of of yours ?

[Maiden]

nah i dont think so... i have enough seeds/plants. Im going crazy ! lol

[Rodrigo]

This plant has a very beautiful flower. Thanks for sharing these images on CPUK, Maiden.

Note: Just out of curiosity, the seeds of this plant are equal to those of Sarracenia?

Best regards,

Rodrigo

[Maiden]

Hello rodrigo
Thanks for the compliment, but the first pictures was from simon! :)

I dont know about what the seeds look like. But the seeds can be hard to raise. I have many minors and pulchella in bloom right now and many littles flying insects, so maybe ill get seeds soon!  Sarracenia seeds are easy.

[av8tor1]

Maiden, on 25 November 2012 - 22:36 PM, said:

...I dont know about what the seeds look like....

Here ya go:




HTH's
Av

Edited by av8tor1, 26 November 2012 - 03:21 AM.

[Maiden]

Thanks av !
(Sorry for my bad english, its my third language and im learning right now)

This morning i cut a old heli minor flower hamp who was dry. I look in the flower, and guest what?? A seeds capsule! I have heliamphora seeds !

BUT this flower hamp was my first, and the only one at this time. So how the flower can produce seeds without another flower ? Maybe my seeds are not good?

Maiden