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[mmlr38]

A few photos of my mother plants of Mirror and Biohazard.  These guys are some serious freaks! I was chuckling while taking the photos at the ridiculousness of their traps.  Biohazard is especially interesting with the fold through the middle of the trap and the trigger hairs all along the fold.

[Zagato]

Beautifule plants!
Now my "Biohasard" is like a typical vft...

Edited by Zagato, 20 May 2012 - 10:08 AM.

[Manekineko]

Yes, the problem with these two dionaea is that they are unstable ... I'm affraid that you will soon have a typical VFTs ...

[mantrid]

Whats the origin of Biohazard?
I think alot of these mutated plants are the result of chemical treatments that are not permenant.
Find a chemical that caused a particular deformity. Dose a batch of VFTs and stick them on ebay and get £60 each for them. Nice little earner for the unscrupulous type.

[TheInactiveMoth]

Wow - nice VFTs!

[mmlr38]

Zagato, on 20 May 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

Beautifule plants!
Now my "Biohasard" is like a typical vft...

Sorry to hear that

Manekineko, on 20 May 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Yes, the problem with these two dionaea is that they are unstable ... I'm affraid that you will soon have a typical VFTs ...

Hmm, interesting.  I've grown Mirror for well over 1.5 years now and it appears to be quite stable for me.  It does make "typical" traps from time to time, but always comes back with some mirrored traps.

Having only had it 8 months or so, I've not grown Biohazard long enough to know how stable it is.  Hopefully it will remain stable, but perhaps it's like Pom Pom and will revert to looking typical.

mantrid, on 20 May 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

Whats the origin of Biohazard?
I think alot of these mutated plants are the result of chemical treatments that are not permenant.
Find a chemical that caused a particular deformity. Dose a batch of VFTs and stick them on ebay and get £60 each for them. Nice little earner for the unscrupulous type.

I don't know the origin of Biohazard.  Does anyone else?

[Zagato]

Biohazard come from C.Klein. I grow mine like 10 months and now typical traps... And is not an adult plant!!!
Mirror is not really unstable. Some grower have mirror traps and after 3 years is a typical vft. And some grower id all the time mirror traps. I had my mirror only 2-3months ago. And now it's doing mirror traps :)

Edited by Zagato, 20 May 2012 - 18:18 PM.

[Trev]

I've had Mirror and Biohazard VFT's for about a year. Both of my Mirror plants have no mirrored traps anymore but my Biohazard plants are still doing their thing. I would imagine these clones were produced by treating seeds with Colchicine the same way Funnel Trap was, and like that plant they'll probably slowly revert to typicals over time.

[guillaume]

Trev why did you say trichterfalle is not stable?

The best multi-traps vft I know is DM "Master of disaster".

[lowii]

As far as I know Biohazard was grown from seed. After some time they can fall back, but if you then take some cuttings of traps with the mutation, you will get some small Biohazards again.

cheers
Michael

[scottleroc]

sorry but I think they just look ugly :/

[will9]

I have mirror for 3 years now and it s still stable,when go into a typical then you have not a real mirror,mirror is watch for severall years before make a registred cultivar.I think you can not say from a registred cultivar it s not stable.

Biohazard it s second season i have this and still biohazard,hope it s stay that way,it s to spended for chance into a typical ,or growers ask far to match for this,
Cheers Will

[mantrid]

guillaume, on 21 May 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

Trev why did you say trichterfalle is not stable?

The best multi-traps vft I know is DM "Master of disaster".

I dont think it is stable either. I got one some years ago and it has divided and I have also taken leaf pullings. I now have about 15 of them of various sizes and none has ever shown a funnel trap.

[mantrid]

lowii, on 21 May 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:

As far as I know Biohazard was grown from seed. After some time they can fall back, but if you then take some cuttings of traps with the mutation, you will get some small Biohazards again.

cheers
Michael

It might be from seed or not but it certainly has been exposed to a mutagenic substance which has interfered with either the chromosome separation during pollen and egg production or the chemical has directly affected the plants development. These deformities rarely happen with naturally produced plants. I have never seen such deformities in plants that I have crossed in all the time I have had VFTs. I would be interested to know if other growers have had such deformities from non chemically treated crossing. Not natural looking variations in colour, trap, teeth, petiole size etc, but a clear disruption to the normal growth pattern.

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scottleroc, on 21 May 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

sorry but I think they just look ugly :/

They are not to my liking either... but, as the idiom says, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[ThomasL]

Mirror is defintly stabil. In young years they don't make mirror traps and adult plants don't make mirror traps every season. I think in the spring they make some and in the summer not.
The original plant from Biohazard is if i remember right from fused tooth. I had three plants and one of them grow back to a typical plant. I devide this plant, but all leaf cuttings are typical plants.
Guillaume i hear about Master of disaster, but i never see a picture of this plant, but they must be very strange. Can you share a pic?

Bye Thomas

[petesredtraps]

ThomasL, on 21 May 2012 - 11:23 AM, said:

Mirror is defintly stabil. In young years they don't make mirror traps and adult plants don't make mirror traps every season. I think in the spring they make some and in the summer not.
The original plant from Biohazard is if i remember right from fused tooth. I had three plants and one of them grow back to a typical plant. I devide this plant, but all leaf cuttings are typical plants.
Guillaume i hear about Master of disaster, but i never see a picture of this plant, but they must be very strange. Can you share a pic?

Bye Thomas

http://www.cpphotofi...aster-5190.html

[will9]

I have some question abouth multiply not stable plants,from biohazard are sold many ,how can you multiply this if it s stay not stable?

Another question ,i have a cudo but i not know how i must multiply this,someone know this? It s not make any offsets for me.

Cheers Will

[Zagato]

If you cut a biohazard leaf the cutting going to be  biohazard.
For cudo like all other vft.

Edited by Zagato, 21 May 2012 - 17:51 PM.

[will9]

Thanks Zagato

For cudo like all other vft. ?   Not whit my plant,it s make no offsets ,i try whit leafcuttings ,it s not work for me.

Cheers Will