bigphil1984

Repotting with sphagnum moss and ready mixed carnivorous plant compost.

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bigphil1984    11

Hi everyone, I just ordered some nice sphagnum moss. I hope it looks as good as the picture! If you repot can you fill the pot just over half way with compost, then just top it off with the sphagnum, will it grow? And how would you store the sphagnum to keep it fresh after opening? Thanks for your time peeps 96e2a03bfbae7c7486ba399aab73413c.jpg

 

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JuanP    19
1 minute ago, JuanP said:

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Looking at forum posts and Google reviews, Gardman Sphagnum moss seems to be dead as a door nail. They state "live" moss, but it seems to be far from that from reading what people found in the bags.

They do sound to be packed with moisture, which might be why it looks different to normal dried Sphagnum, but chances are still very slim to none for ever getting it to grow again.

It might just be dried Sphagnum moss that's been wetted a bit and repacked? This would mean it was heat treated etc. to get rid of any residual spires and the likes to get the product sterile.

Just my two cents with a bit of Google-Fu knowledge.

 

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J.P.

 

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bigphil1984    11
 
Thanks for the info guys. But if it's not good for trying to grow the stuff, is it still ok to use as a top layer in a pot of compost?

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JuanP    19

Perhaps get the smallest bag they have, and try it on its own in a closed transparent container flooded with clean water, to see if anything leeches out color wise (if it was dyed green as suggested) and if possible take a TDS reading of the water it is in to see if any minerals leached out.

It's intended use is to line hanging baskets, so who knows what processes it's been through from harvest to being sold to you.

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bigphil1984    11

is this one just for hanging baskets or can I still use it for potting my plants. i was only going to use it on top of my soil mix about 2cm or so deep so it looked like moss on top and hoping it would grow lol. i was even gonna try it in one pot on its own! will it be ok

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JuanP    19

Do a forum search on "Gardman moss"

It's been brought up a few times it seems, some say steer clear because it has been dyed, others say they use it with no I'll effects.

Can't post a link to the threads, keep getting a weird Malware alert popping up warning me about the forum's securities... :shock:

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manders    573

If youre the patient type, just put some spaghnum peat in a tray, keep it wet and humid, and you will get spaghnum growing, eventually.

otherwise see if you can get some live spaghnum off someone on the forum. 

Most cps dont actually need live spaghnum to do well, peat/perlite is a standard alternative.  

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Koen C.    16

Manders, did spontanuous Sphagnum happen a lot to you? I've been growing CP's in peat for 5 years and would love it is I have some Sphagnum randomly appearing, but so far no luck yet even though there are probably quite a bit of spores in there. 

I once read an article suggesting that Sphagnum spores need some kind of higher nutritional values then the adult plants in order to germinate. Do you use fertilizer by any chance? Maybe that's the reason you got the spontanuous Sphagnum? 

If it's not this, maybe just the brand of peat, or pure luck.

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bigphil1984    11
Do a forum search on "Gardman moss"
It's been brought up a few times it seems, some say steer clear because it has been dyed, others say they use it with no I'll effects.
Can't post a link to the threads, keep getting a weird Malware alert popping up warning me about the forum's securities... :shock:
I'll have a look. Thanks

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bigphil1984    11
If youre the patient type, just put some spaghnum peat in a tray, keep it wet and humid, and you will get spaghnum growing, eventually.
otherwise see if you can get some live spaghnum off someone on the forum. 
Most cps dont actually need live spaghnum to do well, peat/perlite is a standard alternative.  
Hi manes, I'll try it, cam only try I suppose. Always like to experiment. Lol, you never know it might

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bigphil1984    11

Sorry manders. I really need to knock off this prodictive text in fact gonna do it now lol

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bigphil1984    11
I'll have a look. Thanks

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Wasnt sure what you meant about the malware thing untill you posted pics

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manders    573
45 minutes ago, Koen C. said:

Manders, did spontanuous Sphagnum happen a lot to you? I've been growing CP's in peat for 5 years and would love it is I have some Sphagnum randomly appearing, but so far no luck yet even though there are probably quite a bit of spores in there. 

I once read an article suggesting that Sphagnum spores need some kind of higher nutritional values then the adult plants in order to germinate. Do you use fertilizer by any chance? Maybe that's the reason you got the spontanuous Sphagnum? 

If it's not this, maybe just the brand of peat, or pure luck.

Yes i've had it appear several times and as far as i can tell a few different species.  I do use fertiliser on occasion but this has actually killed some of the spaghnum.  It could be i had some live spagh around and theres been fresh spores floating around the greenhouse, although i think the peat has a lot of spores in it.  Do you get seedlings of any sort coming up in the peat?  I usually get reeds germinating and heathers or ling etc. so the peat is not sterile.

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bigphil1984    11

Im going to be using this compost and its peat free! This is what ive got my little albino drosera in, and it loves it! So would sphagnum grow in this with it being peat free?91cbacda0b9dc1e357275fe5692b19d6.jpg

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manders    573

It might if you planted some, but there wont be any spores in it.

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manders    573
1 hour ago, Koen C. said:

Manders, did spontanuous Sphagnum happen a lot to you? I've been growing CP's in peat for 5 years and would love it is I have some Sphagnum randomly appearing, but so far no luck yet even though there are probably quite a bit of spores in there. 

I once read an article suggesting that Sphagnum spores need some kind of higher nutritional values then the adult plants in order to germinate. Do you use fertilizer by any chance? Maybe that's the reason you got the spontanuous Sphagnum? 

If it's not this, maybe just the brand of peat, or pure luck.

Heres one type that grew, its a very fine and seems to be drier growing than some, this plant used to stood permantly in water which is maybe why the spagh started growing in the first place.  I suspect if you use any type of fertiliser, you will get some other type of non-spagh growing.

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bigphil1984    11
It might if you planted some, but there wont be any spores in it.
I might just try some, see what happens and keep you all updated

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bigphil1984    11

Well my moss came and this is the colour and very wet do they wet it with distilled water?2ffdb32c13a82b294f9e682dab73a33f.jpg

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bigphil1984    11

Hi I repotted to today and rinsed with rain water, only used it in 2 pots to see how they go

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JuanP    19

Probably still a good idea to invest in even a cheapy TDS meter, then you can test the water before, rinse the Sphag a few times, then retest the water. At least you will have an indication of how clean it is, and if it's leaching anything?

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bigphil1984    11
Probably still a good idea to invest in even a cheapy TDS meter, then you can test the water before, rinse the Sphag a few times, then retest the water. At least you will have an indication of how clean it is, and if it's leaching anything?
I'll definitely get one. Thanks Juan

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