dimitar Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 As we all know well, the autumn encourage the intensity of Cephalotus coloration due to low temps, I think it will be interesting for all of us to share pics of our Cephalotus plants under different conditions.. Please, feel free to post pictures Here is one of mine in this gloomy day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnicarni Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 What are these colours !? That's amazing ! Envoyé de mon GT-I9305 en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Anderson Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 That's some stunning colour on your ceph there. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Thanks. We continue with more fall color. Cephalotus Two Peoples Bay seed grown Cephalotus Two Peoples Bay seed grown Cephalotus "Big Boy" Cephalotus Coal Mine Beach seed grown Cephalotus Northclife seed grown from the same batch with the plant below. Cephalotus Northclife DD-C001 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Cephalotus in South Korea. Edited November 22, 2015 by Jacob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ron Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Cephalotus Follicularis Dimitar, not as much colouration as yours but grown in a much cooler climate, over hear in North Wales. With you having a much warmer and longer period of warm and sunny temperatures do you think this helps in the colouration of the traps.? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted November 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Ron, what u have shown is healthy and very well colored plant. It is much more colored and beautuful than many other cultivars and named plants. With you having a much warmer and longer period of warm and sunny temperatures do you think this helps in the colouration of the traps.? My Cephs get sun only in the winter when the temps are cold enough. The rest of the year just bright light and under shade cloth in the summer. However, I don't think the sun is key factor for good coloration, rather than the cold...Cheers mate. Edited November 25, 2015 by dimitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus B Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) From my experience and the comments of others, the best colouration comes not just due to being cold and getting direct sunlight, but due a good variation in temperaure from night to day. I have seen quotes of the variation needing to be a least 10oC for good colour. This is is best seen here when there are frosts followed by sunny days, but I have also seen plants colour up well when there was a similar variation between night and day without it being quite so cold, provided they have good sun exposure. So it may not be a matter of not being cold enough, but rather it not being warm enough in the day after a cold night. The question I suppose is, how cold does it need to be for this to be effective? Then again, I have plants that just ignore all this and either refuse to colour up, or colour up regardless of the conditions, even without seeming to get the direct sun needed. Evidently they still get enough light to respond. Edited November 25, 2015 by Marcus B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) The question I suppose is, how cold does it need to be for this to be effective? This is very interesting, but difficult question. All the results are in greenhouse frost free conditions: The color in full sun and temps down to 2C at night and 12-16C day. Under diffused light approx 60% sun and temps 28C day to 10-12C at night. ( my beloved plant) Just bright light without sun in possition close to the bubble nylon. Temps down to 4C at night and no more than 10C day. But the same plant got its best color in the mid spring under temps 28-35C day to 12-16C at night in the same possition. Edited November 26, 2015 by dimitar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus B Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Great photos! This would seem to support the notion of the temperature variation being important in colour production, but it not necessarily needing to be as great as previously suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Cephalotus "Big Boy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted November 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 That one is getting darker. Seed grown Cephalotus Coal Mine Beach variation, a plant that i'm proud of due to its shape... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 That one is getting darker. Seed grown Cephalotus Coal Mine Beach variation, a plant that i'm proud of due to its shape... I like this squat form. I find Cephalotus with unusual pitcher shapes more interesting than dark or large pitcher clones. This one has both unusual pitcher shape and good colouration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted November 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I find Cephalotus with unusual pitcher shapes more interesting than dark or large pitcher clones. So true. I agree. It would appear that only the shape is stable with these plants. The coloration or the pitcher size both are unstable and greatly vary under different growing conditions and very often u may end up disappointed if u buy " giant or dark reputated " plant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Here's mine close up with link: http://www.pbase.com/canon_boy/image/161994178 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incursion Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Now heres a controversial question.... But does good colouration mean healthy? or is it in fact the plant attempting to adapt to less favourable conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partisangardener Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) I think this colour costs the plant certainly something, but with me it seems to harden it. My oldest plant already shown how it is now here http://ocps.proboards.com/thread/7518/make-sloped-vertical-grow-cephs?page=2 It started to colour up last autumn at a west facing widow cold conditions between 2 and 10 C° under artificial extra light for 10 hours a day since December 2014. First Picture November 2014 Second picture from 5. January 2015 Third picture from 23 January 2015 Fourth picture from 12.3.2015 Fifth picture short before it went into the garden. The other side was more exposed to the sun and got much darker at the same time first of april 2015 In the middle of the link above you can see his colour now. Much more green colours to be seen. the pair of the two old pitchers can be spotted on most pictures the first show only one because the other one is behind a new pitcher and the last picture shows none they are on the opposite side. They are nearly closed and very dark especially at the lid. Edited December 3, 2015 by partisangardener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I wonder what age pitchers may reach? What is the maximum age you experienced? Followed your link above to the Ontario forum, I found your thread without single answer, so here is my - it much depends from the clone, its age, its genes, under what conditions it is growing etc. Under my conditions some pitchers lasted from 2 months up to 2.5 years and more. . . I think this colour costs the plant certainly something, What exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partisangardener Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) To build up the anthocyanins and of course the red part of light it reflects can’t be used by the plant. In plenty light this will not make much difference but red equals normally with plants a slower growth rate compared to green varieties. That might be the reason for bigger pitchers with a little shading. On the other hand red might attract more insects which I doubt with Cephalotus (Ants usually don’t go for colors) but might be the case with other carnivores. Edited December 4, 2015 by partisangardener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted December 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Cephalotus "Eden Black x Eden Black Bananito" clone, abundant nectar around the peristome in the morning. The nectar gently disappears in the afternoone and back again in the morning... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinier Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hello Everyone, I grow my cephs in a cold frame on my balcony in the centre of Amsterdam. They receive filtered sunlight and are protected from rain, I keep them moist in winter (not with 'feet' in the water). The only protection they get from frost is the cold frame and an electric heating cable which I turn on manually when frost is expected. The lowest they've had to put up with so far is just above freezing (+1 degree C.) Dudley Watts (Which has it's first adult pitcher): Hummer's giant: Eden Black (no comment) Big Boy: Adrian Slack (which indeed lives up to it's character and relatively stays greener) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partisangardener Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Your Cephalotuses look very natural coloured ;). Beautiful collection Reinier congratulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted December 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Seed grown Cephalotus Northcliffe (Sand site) another one with good potential. Unknown and unlabeled but shows very nice color and fat pitchers. ID? if anyone knows is welcome, Received it 3 years ago as very small gift plant from German grower. C.'Hummer's Giant' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Exceptional colour on C."Hummer's Giant" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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