dimitar Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Well, a few years ago I bought seeds from eBay labeled as N. veitchii Bario. Now u can see with what I ended up - bullshit lowland plants including N. globosa. N. mirabilis etc... Was waste of years and hope... That one even don't know what is it..... ID welcome !? Edited July 31, 2014 by dimitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperhead51 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 yes Dimi I seem to have same trouble here now , if i dont hear back from seller will post mine with name of supplier as well , just sick of this crap !!. years of time and trouble to get some crappy hybrid not true plant !!. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Silverman93 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 This is why I don't trust eBay, too many con artists out there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Nice plant though. Tell us who the seller was, so that at least people know who to be warned of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Silverman93 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Aside from the fact it isn't what you wanted it is quite a nice looking plan there dimi though I'm afraid I don't have a clue what it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephFan Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 That's a shame Dimi, It''s a nice plant but not what you were hoping for. As someone who is nurturing some 6mm Nepenthes seedlings after a few months I really hope they turn out to be N. ampullaria! I see all sorts of Nepenthes seeds on eBay but have never bought from there as I don't trust them to be fresh. I hadn't thought that they might just be hybridxhybrid though that's just fraudulent >:-( Cheers, Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North West Neps Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 At least they germinated, dimitar ! I haven't much of a clue about lowlanders, but i'll start the ball rolling with rafflesiana x ampullaria ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted July 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Frankly, I wouldn't quacks if they were mixed seeds even unknown but from highland Neps species or crosses. But those lowland Neps almost die in the winter in the greenhouse. Tell us who the seller was, so that at least people know who to be warned of. The seller was from Asia that's for sure but unfortunately it was 3 years ago or so and I don't remember the name ( the nick) of the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerb Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Too bad to hear. Yes, it looks like their is some rafflesiana in it, possibly mirabilis as well. Especially if the leaves are a bit thin, and have a hint of fimbriate margins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I bought Naga seeds of albermarlesounds which turned out to be talangensis, thats a hard mistake to make so clearly deliberate fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mato Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I bought Naga seeds of albermarlesounds which turned out to be talangensis, thats a hard mistake to make so clearly deliberate fraud. That's a bit harsh. The odds of him potentially mixing up packages seems a lot more likely than him deliberately defrauding any of you and risking poor feedback on Ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 I rarely buy plants on eBay now. I used to buy lots if garden plants , you get a small plant of a rare variety cheap, but then flowers the next year and it's something else. Problem is you only have 45 days to leave feedback, so it's ripe for abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 I rarely buy plants on eBay now. I used to buy lots of garden plants , you get a small plant of a rare variety cheap, but then flowers the next year and it's something else. Problem is you only have 45 days to leave feedback, so it's ripe for abuse. Better to pay full price for mature plant from established nursery, works out cheaper in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 That's a bit harsh. The odds of him potentially mixing up packages seems a lot more likely than him deliberately defrauding any of you and risking poor feedback on Ebay. I'm not the only person its happened to from this seller. Whether its deliberate fraud or just incompetence, the end result to the buyer is the same. How do i leave feedback 2 years late? I would love to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 I do feel that buyers are a bit harsh on the ebay Nep seed sellers. Ricardo (albermarlesounds) doesn't collect all the seeds himself- he knows a number of people who collect seeds for him when they can. Not all of them are Nep experts. Personally, I think that buying seeds that have been collected in the wilds is a good gamble, certainly better odds than the national lottery. Yes, I've bought naga seeds and got talangensis before- but then I've bought naga another 5 times and got naga 5 times- with plenty of variation- for just a couple of pounds per seed pod. Considering the huge range of Neps many of us have grown from ebay seeds, and bearing in mind that he rarely sells more than around 20 pods per year of each species so isn't exactly stripping the wilds of seeds- I think pretty much everyone wins; and complaining about occasional screw-ups and the inevitable hybrids that pop up in seeds from the wild seems a bit mean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) Wasted time & wasted bench space. You should get what you pay for, it's his problem if he cant trust his suppliers. The temptation is to turn a blind eye because you can get something cheap, and not available anywhere else easily. I still have questions about how many pods are collected, i really doubt these guys go wandering off into the forest and come back with a few pods. I suspect the rest are sold elsewhere, hes smart enought to know that ebay buyers will only take a few pods before the price drops. Edited August 3, 2014 by manders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperhead51 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) yes these guys sell to Australia, USA, Japan, and every where else, he / they sell more like several thousand ++++ pods I would think , and its seasonal, its seed time now in Indonesia , not yet in Borneo that is on about Oct Nov before the wet or seasonal , but its not all bad, cause they maintain the current plants for seed collection and not rip them out like many other people do over that way , there collected off Gov land I believe and maintained by the local people, as a source of income was my understanding , but who really knows ? , keeping plant stocks going is a good thing , considering how many wild seed actually germinate in the wild its not a huge loss, sure that some seed do drop off from time to time , but less composition all so means the plant's grow much larger ,I would rather this and having the plants ripped out and sold and gone for good as is the current trend in Indonesia by some Ebay sellers FB sellers or poachers !!. a fast $$ and its gone but such are the needs of some in that part of the world . I have had the frustration of growing from seed plants that as not what was indicated on the packet some 2 to 3 years later when the fist ID able pitcher has formed, very frustrating from all the time and effort and expense if in T/c as well , I challenged the seller and to his credit is sending many replacements to try get what i originally wanted, and not a hybrid, really not that hard have collected seed correctly , have done this my self and when you go to the same areas often enough you realy know what is what probably the case of 3 wise monkey syndrome ?? or dont realy give a toss!! Edited August 4, 2014 by snapperhead51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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