FlytrapCare Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 A few photos of my mother plants of Mirror and Biohazard. These guys are some serious freaks! I was chuckling while taking the photos at the ridiculousness of their traps. Biohazard is especially interesting with the fold through the middle of the trap and the trigger hairs all along the fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagato Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) Beautifule plants! Now my "Biohasard" is like a typical vft... Edited May 20, 2012 by Zagato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manekineko Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Yes, the problem with these two dionaea is that they are unstable ... I'm affraid that you will soon have a typical VFTs ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantrid Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Whats the origin of Biohazard? I think alot of these mutated plants are the result of chemical treatments that are not permenant. Find a chemical that caused a particular deformity. Dose a batch of VFTs and stick them on ebay and get £60 each for them. Nice little earner for the unscrupulous type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInactiveMoth Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Wow - nice VFTs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlytrapCare Posted May 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Beautifule plants! Now my "Biohasard" is like a typical vft... Sorry to hear that Yes, the problem with these two dionaea is that they are unstable ... I'm affraid that you will soon have a typical VFTs ... Hmm, interesting. I've grown Mirror for well over 1.5 years now and it appears to be quite stable for me. It does make "typical" traps from time to time, but always comes back with some mirrored traps. Having only had it 8 months or so, I've not grown Biohazard long enough to know how stable it is. Hopefully it will remain stable, but perhaps it's like Pom Pom and will revert to looking typical. Whats the origin of Biohazard? I think alot of these mutated plants are the result of chemical treatments that are not permenant. Find a chemical that caused a particular deformity. Dose a batch of VFTs and stick them on ebay and get £60 each for them. Nice little earner for the unscrupulous type. I don't know the origin of Biohazard. Does anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagato Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) Biohazard come from C.Klein. I grow mine like 10 months and now typical traps... And is not an adult plant!!! Mirror is not really unstable. Some grower have mirror traps and after 3 years is a typical vft. And some grower id all the time mirror traps. I had my mirror only 2-3months ago. And now it's doing mirror traps :) Edited May 20, 2012 by Zagato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I've had Mirror and Biohazard VFT's for about a year. Both of my Mirror plants have no mirrored traps anymore but my Biohazard plants are still doing their thing. I would imagine these clones were produced by treating seeds with Colchicine the same way Funnel Trap was, and like that plant they'll probably slowly revert to typicals over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillaume Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Trev why did you say trichterfalle is not stable? The best multi-traps vft I know is DM "Master of disaster". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowii Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 As far as I know Biohazard was grown from seed. After some time they can fall back, but if you then take some cuttings of traps with the mutation, you will get some small Biohazards again. cheers Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottleroc Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 sorry but I think they just look ugly :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I have mirror for 3 years now and it s still stable,when go into a typical then you have not a real mirror,mirror is watch for severall years before make a registred cultivar.I think you can not say from a registred cultivar it s not stable. Biohazard it s second season i have this and still biohazard,hope it s stay that way,it s to spended for chance into a typical ,or growers ask far to match for this, Cheers Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantrid Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Trev why did you say trichterfalle is not stable? The best multi-traps vft I know is DM "Master of disaster". I dont think it is stable either. I got one some years ago and it has divided and I have also taken leaf pullings. I now have about 15 of them of various sizes and none has ever shown a funnel trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantrid Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 As far as I know Biohazard was grown from seed. After some time they can fall back, but if you then take some cuttings of traps with the mutation, you will get some small Biohazards again. cheers Michael It might be from seed or not but it certainly has been exposed to a mutagenic substance which has interfered with either the chromosome separation during pollen and egg production or the chemical has directly affected the plants development. These deformities rarely happen with naturally produced plants. I have never seen such deformities in plants that I have crossed in all the time I have had VFTs. I would be interested to know if other growers have had such deformities from non chemically treated crossing. Not natural looking variations in colour, trap, teeth, petiole size etc, but a clear disruption to the normal growth pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 sorry but I think they just look ugly :/ They are not to my liking either... but, as the idiom says, beauty is in the eye of the beholder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasL Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Mirror is defintly stabil. In young years they don't make mirror traps and adult plants don't make mirror traps every season. I think in the spring they make some and in the summer not. The original plant from Biohazard is if i remember right from fused tooth. I had three plants and one of them grow back to a typical plant. I devide this plant, but all leaf cuttings are typical plants. Guillaume i hear about Master of disaster, but i never see a picture of this plant, but they must be very strange. Can you share a pic? Bye Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petesredtraps Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Mirror is defintly stabil. In young years they don't make mirror traps and adult plants don't make mirror traps every season. I think in the spring they make some and in the summer not. The original plant from Biohazard is if i remember right from fused tooth. I had three plants and one of them grow back to a typical plant. I devide this plant, but all leaf cuttings are typical plants. Guillaume i hear about Master of disaster, but i never see a picture of this plant, but they must be very strange. Can you share a pic? Bye Thomas http://www.cpphotofinder.com/dionaea-master-of-disaster-5190.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I have some question abouth multiply not stable plants,from biohazard are sold many ,how can you multiply this if it s stay not stable? Another question ,i have a cudo but i not know how i must multiply this,someone know this? It s not make any offsets for me. Cheers Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagato Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 (edited) If you cut a biohazard leaf the cutting going to be biohazard. For cudo like all other vft. Edited May 21, 2012 by Zagato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Thanks Zagato For cudo like all other vft. ? Not whit my plant,it s make no offsets ,i try whit leafcuttings ,it s not work for me. Cheers Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagato Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Some grower do leaf cutting and it's work. I try 4 times and 0 plant came out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlytrapCare Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I've had Mirror and Biohazard VFT's for about a year. Both of my Mirror plants have no mirrored traps anymore but my Biohazard plants are still doing their thing. I would imagine these clones were produced by treating seeds with Colchicine the same way Funnel Trap was, and like that plant they'll probably slowly revert to typicals over time. Interesting. I've been growing Trichterfalle (Funnel Trap) for multiple years now and it still puts out funnel traps every spring and summer. I've produced thousands of them out of TC and they too all produce funnel traps. It seems to be quite stable for me, as does Mirror and the TC plants I've produced of it. Though both of those clones (Mirror and Funnel Trap) can go for quite some time without producing their unusual traps. I've not had Biohazard long enough to comment on its stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Trev why did you say trichterfalle is not stable? The best multi-traps vft I know is DM "Master of disaster". Hi Guillaume, I've been growing Trichterfalle for 9 years, at first they grew about 1 funnelled trap to every 4 normal, slowly over the years it got less and less, until they hadn't grown any for 2 years, so I got rid of all my Trichterfalle / Funnel Trap plants. I made a post here on the forum about it and many others said theirs were doing the same. Matze said he had some that produced lots of funnelled traps, so I bought 3 from him and at first they were good but already they are producing less and less. Maybe it's me Would love to try a "Master of disaster" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagato Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 People think the funnel came when it's very humide. Master of Disaster is very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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