Oleksii Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) Hello to all! One seed of U. longifolia germinated approximately week ago. The question is:is it too early to plant it pot? And mix, composed of dead peat moss and perlit (1:1) covered with chopped moss, is suitable for further growing? Edited September 14, 2012 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Rohrbacher Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 ... dead peat moss and perlit (1:1) covered with chopped moss, is suitable for further growing? It's OK to me, I'm grow this species in sphagnum and quartz sand (1:1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted August 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Thanks for reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tricome Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) I grow it too, in sphagnum. I Have 1 pot growing as epiphytic and another growing with water level until the surface (each time i water it). Both thrive well, but only out of terrarium, it seems that the plant likes temperature droops at night. Edited August 28, 2011 by Tricome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Nice pics I grew this utric from seed before with high level of water, but not successfully due to abnormal substrate (as I know now). Sphagnum looks to be the most suitable substrate. In addition, another seed is trying to germinate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) I change a topic name to more general - I want to use it for all my questions. I'm growing U.alpina and sandersonii nearly month and it's look like that alpina have adapted - new leaf appeared.. But question about sandersonni is the main - what is growing with it? I hope you can see narrow leaves between normal leaves of sandersonii (one uncommon plant is on foreground). Is it another species of utric or some weird leaves of sandersonii? Edited September 21, 2011 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I grow it too, in sphagnum. [...] another growing with water level until the surface (each time i water it). I grew mine the same too, for a while, but then it started to develop purple patches on leaves and they become deformed. I suspect that it was fungal but it never stopped it from flowering every year. No amount of fungicide treatments would clear the patches. I now grow it on the drier side and the purple patches have gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlatokrt Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I grew mine the same too, for a while, but then it started to develop purple patches on leaves and they become deformed. I suspect that it was fungal but it never stopped it from flowering every year. No amount of fungicide treatments would clear the patches. I now grow it on the drier side and the purple patches have gone. Interesting - my plant did this too. Then i moved it directly under the spraying system of my greenhouse and made a protection from direct sunlight and the patches are gone. I thought that it was coused by low air humidity, but your experience is almost opposite to mine. And my substrate experience - my plant grows the best in peat-perlite-sand mix (1:1:1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) I'm going to buy new Utrics :blanchetii, dichotoma and nephrophylla. First two are terrestrial but what about nephrophylla? Search shows that somebody grows it like terrestrial, other - like epiphytes(if I correctly understood). I think about two variants: peat:perlit 1:1 covered with moss or pure moss. Upd. wiki says tat it's lithophytic, so, perhaps moss or even moss with perlit would be better... Edited September 23, 2011 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlatokrt Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 I grow nephrophylla in peat:sand mix and it grows very well. It is not picky for a substrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 But question about sandersonni is the main - what is growing with it? I hope you can see narrow leaves between normal leaves of sandersonii (one uncommon plant is on foreground). Is it another species of utric or some weird leaves of sandersonii? I think it is a species of Arenaria, a common weed of cultivated plants, but difficult to see from your photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) This unknown plant is going to flower, so question "what is it" could be solved very soon. I also noticed new leaves of alpina - it's quite hopeful. Does alpina need night drop of temperature or it can survive without this part of condition or it has vital important? Edited October 3, 2011 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Evans Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 It likes a temperature drop at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) My alpina grows well, but the oldest of new appeared leaves have reddish edges and tips. I think I am not able to make a photo of it. Do you consider this to be a problem? Edited October 18, 2011 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) My firs utric was grown from seed near year ago. it should be sandersonii, but it isn't, only bisqumata is suspected. This plant doesn't want to flower. I know that there could be few reasons, for example light, but real sandersonii which I obtained week or two ago is going to do this. But one of the possible reasons can be this strange things. Their colour is between light-brown and black. Have any idea of what it could be. It 100% is not plant. Sorry, this photo is not very good quality, but better I will able to at the weekend. One more photo: Edited October 27, 2011 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) My firs Utric. flower - Utricularia sandersonii, white flower. I think strange form (three "ears" and two "hands") is because it is not flower of main patch and because it is first :) Edited November 8, 2011 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) Hi to all! I come back again with new question :) I want to grow U. gibba from seed. So, will I only put them into glass with water? Thanx! Oleksy Edited November 15, 2011 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I want to continue my previous question about gibba from seed. Anyone did this? How many time it takes to germinate? It can germinate in a bit unclear water? Thank you. Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I hope it is gibba seedling(s) - what it can be if there was only peat and seeds :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Certainly looks like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Small update to my previous post. My aquatic Utric. is growing and has a few threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 My firs utric was grown from seed near year ago. it should be sandersonii, but it isn't, only bisqumata is suspected. This plant doesn't want to flower. I had a lot of success with utrics. And I discovered that, many utircs require very high light to flower. Just be careful with bisquamata; it can become a noxious weed in your collections, especially if you are growing more demure kinds of utrics. Once I get bisquamata to flower, I pretty much tossed the pot because it was spreading everywhere. In my collection, it was spreading worse than subulata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Thank you for the answer, but now I repot small peace of it and grow only it. So, will see what will happen. Edited May 19, 2012 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted May 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) --- Edited May 19, 2012 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksii Posted May 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Hi! Few questions arose. U. gibba started make globulas, it doesn't look usual way of growth - it is preparing to flowers or smth else? And it start be accreted by algae - is there any way to stop it? Another question is about alpina. I grow it in closed chamber and after watering in mid of April it still is wet. Does it need become dryish or it only shouldn't be in water but just wet is OK? I also try to grow humboldtii and nelumbifolia in closed jars with water. Have anybody grown them this way? And question about clasification of sandersonii. There is white form and there is blue form. Is there any typical? Thank you! In addition photo of sandersonii and "closly" related orhcid Ionopsis utricularioides:) Edited May 22, 2012 by Oleksii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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